Water Crime

Gary Mackay's report .pdfplease read and then read the response below from Jack Seale

From: Gerda Lamprecht <gerda@harties.org.za>
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 16:48:20 +0200
To: <4_babich@fishingowl.co.za>

Dear Stakeholder, it has come to our attention that some Stakeholders were unable to open the attachment previously send, herewith please find the copied version of Mr Seale`s reply:

Dear Gary Mackay,
I would like to state my opinion on your e-mail asking the community to support the revival of HWAG and your apparent involvement in its re-creation.
Gary as you know I have been involved one way or the other on every committee or programme that has had an interest in the Dam and the cleaning thereof, I have entrenched interests in the environment and the protection thereof.   
I have followed your involvement with respect and interest, but as I have said before you talk the talk, but don't walk the walk.
You are now accusing people of lying and distorting the truth, exactly what people are accusing you of.
Your attempt to belittle people by stating that the Government Parliament Portfolio committee was entertained on a boat cruise by "positively disposed or unenlightened" people.  For your interest some of your previous colleagues such as Dirk Bouwer etc. were on the boat and gave input, to the "unenlightened" committee and metsi-a-me showed them the actual polluted areas and what was being done around the dam in an effort to improve the situation, a "hands on" success for metsi-a-me, who hoped that the tour had a positive influence on the Parliamentary committee members.  I for one spoke on what we are now experiencing around the dam, the visual pollution is being managed and this fact is the most important fact for businesses and stakeholders around the dam in the short term, it reduces the concept, in the eyes of the ignorant that the dam is polluted, these results attract visitors, and insures both residents and visitors are free of the nasty smells and visual pollution at the wall and other areas.  I am under no illusion that this is only step one in a long line of research and concerted efforts starting at the sources of all the rivers, clearing the pollution in the rivers first and maintaining all the sewage works will result in a gradual improvement.  Those of us that have lived in Hartebeespoort for a period of years, don't expect a miracle, we know that there are many ideas and individuals saying they can clean the dam, they have all failed including yourself.  (Obviously you are going to blame everybody else)

You state that the meeting was suddenly cancelled and have insinuated some kind of mischief. Have you actually found out why it was cancelled, instead of hearsay.  It was the chairman of the Parliamentary committee decision, ask her.
I honestly feel that no community member, stake holder or resident should support you in your efforts until such time you make known the following facts publicly.
1.       Open HWAG's books for audit.

2.      Tell the community how much in remuneration you have received from HWAG and the Department of Water Affairs during your period of consultancy.  As you seem to disagree with the costs and expenses that the Department of Water Affairs and others have undergone and are presently spending on this project.  

3.      Taking the question asked in paragraph 2 above into consideration, just what have you personally achieved, for the money paid to you.  Please don't blame others for your lack of achievement.

4.      Telling us exactly what happened to the money collected and donated to HWAG over the years.

5.      It is hearsay, Pecanwood collected money, a sizeable amount according to reliable sources which they refused to hand over to HWAG, until something was achieved, this was a number of years ago.  I understand that the money is still available and would appreciate to know why you haven't collected it.

Once you have reconciled the facts, you will understand that it is not going to take one person or one organization to clean the dam.  You will realize that it will take everyone, positively supporting the Department of Water Affairs. The bickering and fighting amongst so called experts each giving their opinion and usurping one another, for prestige or money must come to an end.   I would advise everyone concerned to ignore the myth that one person or organization can clean this dam.  As far as I am concerned it will take a concerted effort by all to support the metsi-a-me project.

Jack Seale

Hartbeespoort Slang & Diere Park / Hartbeespoort Snake & Animal Park
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Dredging Hartties

From: Gerda Lamprecht <gerda@harties.org.za>
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 14:47:02 +0200for fow
To: <4_babich@fishingowl.co.za>

Good Afternoon

Attached please find a notification issued by Dept of Water Affairs relating to the pilot sediment dredging project which is scheduled to start on the 16 August 2010.



Gerda Lamprecht


From: Rachelle Seymore <communication@harties.org.za>
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:06:05 +0200
To: <4_babich@fishingowl.co.za>
Subject: Harties metsi a me programme - RMP update

Dear Harties metsi a me Stakeholder

It has been a while since we have communicated with you about the Resource Management Plan (RMP) for the Hartbeespoort Dam and the parallel implementation thereof through the Harties metsi a me Integrated Biological Remediation Programme.

To summarise the events to date herewith the following:
Schedule of RMP meetings held since the RMP process started:

  1. 12 September 2007

  2. 2 November 2007

  3. 23 January 2008

  4. 4 June 2008

  5. 30 July 2009

  6. 20 November 2009.
    The draft RMP was made public on 7 March 2009 and comments were invited by all interested and affected parties as well as stakeholders.  An extensive comment/review period was granted and the closing date was 30 April 2009.  

    For more details visit the RMP process on the Harties metsi a me website through the link www.dwaf.gov.za/harties <http://www.dwaf.gov.za/harties>

    Some comments were received and these were to be incorporated into the document in order to finalise the RMP for sign off by the Minister of Water Affairs.  The following challenges are in the process of being addressed:

  1. Implementation of the Local Rules and access to the dam.

  2. Water Use Authorisations addressing the future management towards the desired state of the dam.

  3. Develop a classification system for the dam to determine the management class in terms of Resource Quality Objectives.

A number of stakeholders have requested a follow up meeting which will be scheduled as soon as possible as the final document needs to be discussed with you in detail as well as the roles and responsibilities of those who are to implement it.

It is therefore expected that a meeting will be held towards the end of November 2009 (tentative date 19 November 2009).  The date will however be confirmed with you in due course.    

Kind regards  
Rachelle Seymore
Communication & Awareness: Harties metsi a me
P/Bag X356
Hartbeespoort, 0216
Tel: 012 207-9911
Cell: 082 9414 752
E-mail: mailto:communication@harties.org.za

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